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With the Prime Minister's
announcement that Corporal
Willie Apiata
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has been awarded the Victoria Cross,
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the 35-year-old soldier must now
face a national press conference.
And he's not looking forward to it.
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From where I come
from, from the job I do,
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even giving a little is too much.
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And when you're ready, just start.
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Lieutenant Colonel Mike Shatford
briefs the press on the rules.
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I'd like to outline the process
that will happen today so we're
all clear on the rules of the game.
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Corporal Apiata has only just
found out about this huge honour.
It is quite overwhelming,
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so I would ask that you go as
easy as you possibly can on him.
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Willie's moment of reckoning
cannot be delayed any longer.
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I don't think anyone could prepare
themselves for what I walked into
that morning.
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I'm right behind you.
Cheers, sir.
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CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK, APPLAUSE
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Just standing there...
just unreal, eh.
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Just real emotional.
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Willie Apiata joins yet another
group of elite people.
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This is the first award of
the Victoria Cross for NZ.
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His is the first and the only
Victoria Cross to be awarded
to a NZ serviceman
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since the end of the
Second World War.
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The questioning quickly turns
to that night in Afghanistan.
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Hey, I was doing my job, eh,
and just looking after my mates.
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It was the...
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What was going through
your mind at that time?
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TENSE SILENCE
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You can sense the
anticipation of the press
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to get some information out of
you so they can tell your story.
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'Where's my buddies?'
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'How can I help them?'
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During this incident, did you feel
fear? What was the feeling that went
through you as you were doing this?
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Um...
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At the time, I was just... doing
what I've been trained for. Doing my
job.
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Look out for my mates.
Watch each other's back, and...
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The heat of the moment.
I can't really say at this time.
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There was a lot of fire going on.
You weren't worried about being hit?
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< I think it's probably time to
take the questions somewhere else.
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< Willie is quite overwhelmed by the
situation, and perhaps we can talk
more about other things.
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Do you see yourself, perhaps, as the
living legend, as others might do
from this day forward?
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I see myself as Willie Apiata.
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I'm just an ordinary person and...
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this is me.
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This is one of the hardest things
I've ever had to do, actually.
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Good one. All done.
Thank you, sir.
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It was a great job.
Cheers, boss.
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It was an enormous amount of
pressure on him to present himself.
I think he did a great job.
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But Willie was just Willie. He was
just being himself. That is him.
That is Willie the man.
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After facing the cameras, Willie
asked for a private moment with the
people who helped him through it.
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I've always been a man of few
words, but I need to say something.
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Since 9 o'clock yesterday, it's just
been an unbelievable experience.
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The old 12 o'clock news today,
that sort of really hit home for me.
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I'd just like to thank you all for
everything that you've done in the
last three years,
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building up to this day.
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I can't believe I only just found
out 9 o'clock yesterday about all of
this,
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but thanks very much. I... Words
can't explain how much I appreciate
what you fellas have done.
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Thank you. Kia ora.
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APPLAUSE
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You're gonna get sick of us.
Cheers, Willie.
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Cheers.
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BERNADINE OLIVER-KERBY: NZ has a
new living legend - a man who
displayed...
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Back at the hotel, Willie watches
his story lead the national news for
the second time that day.
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...hasn't changed me at all.
I'm still one of the boys, back at
work, and always will be.
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Awesome.
Yeah.
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63 media stories about Willie.
Online coverage through NZ spreading
to Australia, France, the UAE.
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This is just an awesome...
thing that's happening.
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I know. >
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I didn't think it'd be
that big at all. But...
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it just felt like it almost
went global, just like that.
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Some messages of support for
Corporal Willie Apiata. From Snoop
in South Korea.
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READS: It makes me proud
to be a Maori again.
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From Sunny. (READS) Salaam, peace.
God bless you and your family for
the ultimate good deed you did.
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Dean in Queensland. (READS)
'Kia ora, Willie. Well done, from
the bros in Iraq. Kia kaha, Deano.
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'Nice one. If I see you in the
pub, it's my shout.' (CHUCKLES)
Hey, get that guy's name.
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For those charged with
keeping the secret,
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the public announcement of Willie's
Victoria Cross has gone off without
a hitch.
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Cheers to you and the team.
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The relief it was out there.
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For me, it was a great relief
because I'd sat on it for some
10 months or so.
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Suddenly, it wasn't a secret
that had to be kept any more.
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In just a few hours, Corporal Willie
Apiata of the NZSAS has become an
official NZ hero.
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But a reluctant one.
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Before they announced it, I'd
finally sort of put it to rest.
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But it's resting no more. It's gonna
be there now for the rest of my
life.
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But, you know, you'll never forget
that night. It'll always be there.
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MACHINE GUNS FIRE
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Following the 9/11 attacks, an
international coalition was on the
hunt for Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
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Among those pursuing the
terrorists were the NZSAS.
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Renowned trackers, they're one of
the world's leading Special Forces.
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Highly skilled, the NZers were able
to penetrate far behind enemy lines
in all environments.
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They were ideally suited for
the rugged Afghanistan landscape.
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BOOM!
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Operating in small convoys of
motorcycle pathfinders and
armed patrol vehicles,
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The NZSAS faced an elusive enemy
that had used the local terrain to
deadly effect
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against the Russian
army years before.
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Among those hand-picked for this
deadly mission was Corporal
Willie Apiata.
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You have all these things that may
happen to you, but you resort to
the training that you've been given.
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Moving through villages, the NZ
troops gathered intelligence on
any suspicious movements.
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We're chasing information, and
information to us is currency.
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Good information could lead
them directly to the enemy.
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BOOM!
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On this occasion, a cache of guns,
explosives and rocket-propelled
grenades were taken from the enemy.
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But Corporal Willie Apiata's patrol
would not be so lucky on their next
encounter.
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Their time in the capital has gone
to plan, and the commanding officer
and his team head back to base.
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But changes in Willie's
life are apparent.
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The first person to ask him for an
autograph sort of said, 'Would you
mind giving me an autograph?'
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Willie said, 'Sure,' and looked at
me and wasn't quite sure what to do.
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I've never been asked for one, so
it's new to me. I said, 'Well, just
put your name.'
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So he did. He wrote
'Willie' and handed it back.
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I said, 'We can do it better next
time.' So now he signs himself
'Willie Apiata, VC', as he should.
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Corporal Willie Apiata returns to
base and back to the routine of a
Special Forces soldier. He hopes.
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He was welcomed back, and it was
business as usual, as far as the
guys were concerned.
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Handshakes - not too many
man hugs go on around this place.
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Doesn't matter if he's wearing the
Victoria Cross on his chest.
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If he does something wrong,
he's gonna know about it.
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I was coming in every morning -
still do PT as usual every morning.
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Get your feet back on the
ground working with the lads.
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Doing some shooting, just getting a
bit of cordite back in the nostrils.
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Getting your eye back in and
making sure you're still doing it.
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GUN FIRES
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Despite his attempts to return to
normality, everything has changed
for Willie Apiata.
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He's the only corporal in the
NZ military with his own office.
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He's only a corporal. He's got his
own office, but he's gotta answer
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a couple of hundred emails
and letters every few days.
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I don't think other corporals
around here would want to do that.
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Messages have flooded in from
politicians, celebrities, sporting
heroes, war veterans
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and other proud regiments from every
part of society and corner of the
globe.
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You get a feel of how the
people are feeling out there.
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The response from them was
awesome. It's just overwhelming.
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It's been an interesting process. A
lot of people have asked for Willie
to go and speak or be at events.
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I think a lot of people forget that
Willie's actually still a soldier
and he's a soldier in the SAS.
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I'm trying to keep things
as normal as we can.
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Trying to schedule events as best
we can to... not to disrupt him.
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If possible, get him out
for a jump with the lads.
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But Willie's newfound
status is now inescapable.
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Even at work, a member of the flight
crew ambushes Willie for an
autograph
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while he prepares for a training
jump with other members of the unit
and the troop.
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Is that you? >
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ENGINE ROARS
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(SHOUTS)
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A few brief moments of isolation
under canopy offer Willie his only
relief from the attention.
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But there is one set of faces
that Willie is desperate to see.
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My family's suffering at
the moment, eh.
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But I know I've just gotta be
patient and I'll get that time
at home.
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Over the next few days, media
interest intensifies on
Willie Apiata
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and the actions in Afghanistan
that led to his Victoria Cross.
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GUNS FIRE
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Meanwhile, Willie learns the
financial and personal pressures
all VC winners must face.
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I was concerned, as any commanding
officer would be, when one of his
subordinates is in this position.
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I was concerned for him, personally.
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While some recipients have succumbed
to the substantial dollar value of
the medals,
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others have suffered a greater toll.
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There are enough stories of Victoria
Cross winners that have ended up
destitute, or drunk and destitute.
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We certainly didn't want that to
occur, and there's no inclination
that it's likely to, either.
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After much demand, the media
are granted a series of closely
supervised one-on-one interviews.
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All right. If you guys will follow
me. Well, welcome to the unit.
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But the very private soldier is
still uncomfortable with his public
role.
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I never thought I'd ever be
talking to the media about it. Yeah.
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Hello.
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With his famous corporal on edge,
the CO lets everyone know exactly
where the boundaries lie.
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We're a discreet organisation.
We're not comfortable in the public
eye. It's not what we do naturally.
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We're just trying to balance what NZ
needs from Willie and what Willie
needs.
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Given that the SAS, you know, builds
its reputation on anonymity, isn't
that shot for him now?
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No, not at all. He still has
anonymity with a gas mask on,
doesn't he?
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The media are no longer covering
the story for just NZ but for news
agencies around the globe.
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Last week, Willie Apiata
was this anonymous bloke...
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...and now you're having to do all
these horrible interviews with us.
(LAUGHS) >
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The public and NZ wanna know who
I am. It's a soldier in the NZSAS,
and that's who I am.
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We've been receiving messages
on our website by the hundreds.
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They generally wanted to know
who I was and how I was feeling.
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Yeah, it's still quite an
overwhelming thing that I'm going
through.
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And, you know, I'm taking
it one day at a time.
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You've said you'd rather face
the Taliban than the media.
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There's a couple of them, actually,
that were right up in your face,
but...
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we all know they just want a piece
of Willie Apiata, so we had to give
them a little bit.
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Put you in front of that and
take a photo as an honour.
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They're big words you don't really
like. You were just doing your job.
(LAUGHS) OK, mate.
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Um, so,... uh...
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Some journalists go fishing for
more details about Afghanistan.
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Now, Afghanistan. How long had
you been in Afghanistan when
this particular action happened?
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Probably no questions in
terms of the specifics, sir.>
OK, then.
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So, you were up against
a group of Taliban?
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No specifics on that. >
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(SIGHS) So, there's really no
more that you'd tell us about
Afghanistan?
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Not the specifics. There's reasons
for that. We're not being defensive
or trying to hide anything.
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In the hunt for Al Qaeda, Corporal
Willie Apiata's patrol travelled to
the remotest regions of Afghanistan.
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We would go to villages
to talk to the locals.
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In some places we'd go to,
they haven't seen soldiers
since the Russian days.
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Biblical is the only
thing that springs to mind.
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Donkeys, people carrying piles
of wood, mud huts. Very biblical.
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There were occasions we'd get
flowers thrown on to our vehicle
cos they were happy to see us.
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We're a different bunch, eh, as
Kiwis. We pretty much get on with
just about everybody.
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But greetings weren't
always so enthusiastic.
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We approached this village before
last light and thought, 'We'll visit
and let people know we're there.'
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The welcoming we got from that
village was quite hostile - just
in the way that they looked at us.
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We had been told, previously,
that the village was sympathetic
to Taliban.
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With the meeting set up for the next
day, the patrol moved away from the
village to make camp for the night.
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Some form of dominating ground that
we can fight from, that you feel
secure in,
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that have got eyes on,
basically, all around the fence.
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But the landscape failed to
offer an ideal location to lay up.
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There was still a lot of
ground that we couldn't see into.
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Hiding in the shadows, a
hostile army was amassing.
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At the end of this first week,
Willie gets a much-needed short
break.
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No media, celebrity
snapshots or personal minders.
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I really needed it.
Just to clear my head.
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Get my head around it and get
some closure with my family.
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They hadn't seen me since
this thing started,
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and they were starting to tear the
TV apart every time I was on.
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Willie heads south to see his
partner and son and his biggest
follower.
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Only my mum really understood
what it was about.
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Once it had come out on the TV,
basically, the rest of my family
finally realised.
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You know life's not the same any
more on the home front, don't you?
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My mum's followed me through
my career ever since the first day
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when I went away to do my
first weekend of army training.
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Jeepers. I didn't
know you had all these.
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Oh, that was when I
came back from Afghan, eh.
Mm.
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After a few years in
the Territorial Army,
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his mother would also see Willie's
disappointment after an unsuccessful
first attempt to join the NZSAS,
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an old injury denying
his chance of selection.
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I was pretty gutted about that, but
I had a good unit that I was with at
the time,
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put me back into work and says,
'Hey, there will always be another
opportunity', and I knew that.
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After serving in East Timor, Willie
tried for the NZSAS selection again
in 2001.
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This time, he made the grade.
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Holy Father, bless this food we're
about to devour. Bless this house.
Bless our journey. Amen.
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As a combat trooper, Willie is away
on training and operations much of
the year,
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so he spends all his remaining
time with his partner and son,
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as they come to terms with
the changes in Willie's life.
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Nowadays, no matter how tired I am
or how drained I feel, I'll always
make time to spend with my boy.
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I know that's all he wants - to
be with Dad. He's away so much.
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(LAUGHS)
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Ah... we missed it.
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That's the one. You're
reeling it up a little bit.
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All too soon, Willie's weekend with
loved ones is over. Their next
meeting will be in Wellington,
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where the Governor-General will
present Willie Apiata with the
Victoria Cross in a public ceremony.
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